vista even ultimatex64 have no smtp service

Sorry for the chicken-little but I figured you kind folks would be able to provide information to calm me down :)
"The SMTP service is required for using the SMTP delivery protocol, but it is not installed with Windows Vista. To use the SMTP delivery protocol on Windows Vista, you must separately install an SMTP service."
That's from: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms172485.aspx
That doesn't say "beta only" it just says Vista. And it includes the Ultimate Edition (for developers, right?). Also, because someone elsewhere told me that it was related to Exchange 2007 being 64bit only... we're running Vista 64 Utilmate and it just ain't there.
Can anyone explain how Developers are to be coding .Net SMTP or CDO without the SMTP Service? Argosoft doesn't come in 64bit ;-)
Does this mean that MS is firing the whole .Net System.Mail team?
Thanks for any insights.
smith kirkland, wa

"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message

Sorry for the chicken-little but I figured you kind folks would be able to provide information to calm me down :)
"The SMTP service is required for using the SMTP delivery protocol, but it is not installed with Windows Vista. To use the SMTP delivery protocol on Windows Vista, you must separately install an SMTP service."

Vista SMTP *sending* works just fine from a mail client, but there isn't a relaying or receiving server component included - which is actually quite good considering all the hassle involved with misconfigured and unconfigured SMTP-servers out there...
-Reko

Thanks Reko...
Didn't know it was so hard for pros to set up their SMTP servers ;-).
SendMail is important, however trapping events in the chain was, I thought, pretty important too esp for developers.
Ah well, I can't really complain too much... Virtual Server 2005 R2 is free so you can just spin up a VM of a server OS (or your old XP copy) to test event sinking, but it just gets in the way.
-s
"Reko Turja" wrote in message

"news.microsoft.com" <remove_devsmithremove@remove_smithvoice_remove.com wrote in message Sorry for the chicken-little but I figured you kind folks would be able to provide information to calm me down :)
"The SMTP service is required for using the SMTP delivery protocol, but it is not installed with Windows Vista. To use the SMTP delivery protocol on Windows Vista, you must separately install an SMTP service."
Vista SMTP *sending* works just fine from a mail client, but there isn't a relaying or receiving server component included - which is actually quite good considering all the hassle involved with misconfigured and unconfigured SMTP-servers out there...
-Reko

"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message

Thanks Reko...
Didn't know it was so hard for pros to set up their SMTP servers ;-).

You can't ever be sure about the technical savviness or the skill level of the person you're responding in these newsgroups :)
Once one of the sysadmins in my old workplace did install a IIS server for testing our clients site to our DMZ with SMTP enabled (the client website needed the functionality). He however forgot the "no relaying" tick and the box was merrily sending spam in under 6 hours after setup - and the IP had been unused for several months before that incident :) (This happened to a admin who is generally quite smart securitywise...)

SendMail is important, however trapping events in the chain was, I thought, pretty important too esp for developers.

Yeah, now I understand what you were meaning when needing SMTP functionality - after reading your post I thought you needed it just for relaying private mail upstream.

Ah well, I can't really complain too much... Virtual Server 2005 R2 is free so you can just spin up a VM of a server OS (or your old XP copy) to test event sinking, but it just gets in the way.

Maybe put a feature request about returning the SMTP with the reasons you gave in here to Microsoft as the sending and testing SMTP is a good thing to have for certain website related stuff. (And mentioning that the server shouldn't relay by default :P) Dunno then if keeping the IIS SMTP service secure etc. was too big a chore and the effort is behind Exchance these days.
Of course you might try some lightweight SMTP service as a workaround (there should be some available for Windows), or then setup a smaller box with obsoleteish hardware running a lighter OS and use it as a test mail server.
-Reko